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		<title>Comment on Leverhulme Early Career Fellowship by The Politics of Expectations &#171; Direction not Destination</title>
		<link>http://landscapemodelling.net/blog/2010/07/leverhulme-early-career-fellowship/comment-page-1/#comment-156</link>
		<dc:creator>The Politics of Expectations &#171; Direction not Destination</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 23:05:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in Seattle. I was considering attending but I think it might be best to let the dust settle after moving back to the UK in January. Many others will be there however, including James Porter, a colleague and friend from PhD times [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in Seattle. I was considering attending but I think it might be best to let the dust settle after moving back to the UK in January. Many others will be there however, including James Porter, a colleague and friend from PhD times [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Changing Forest Structure by James</title>
		<link>http://landscapemodelling.net/blog/2010/08/changing-forest-structure/comment-page-1/#comment-142</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Aug 2010 15:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Bill,

Thanks for your question, it&#039;s a good observation. Another observation that I think helps to explain this is that the &#039;pulses&#039; of mortality we see are in the smaller size classes. Consequently, these pulses are related to the pulses of regenerating trees that timber harvest produces.

Remember, in our model we assume that regeneration is only occurring in gaps produced by timber harvest. That means that new trees only show up in the stand after a harvest - and they only show up in the smallest size classes in these diagrams in the second timestep after harvest (in the first timestep they are still growing with DBH &lt; 5cm). With new trees added to these size classes, competition for resources between trees is intense and inevitably many die. In the intervening timesteps mortality is lower because no new trees have been added in that timestep and competition is less fierce. 

These &#039;pulses&#039; of mortality may seem strange but we have to remember two things:
i) this is mortality is for the entire model timestep, which is one decade
ii) the assumption that regeneration only occurs in harvest-created gaps is what is driving the behaviour.

As with all modelling, the appropriateness of the model assumptions must be questioned. In a less-heavily managed forest our &#039;regeneration only after harvest&#039; assumption might not be pertinent. But in the forests we&#039;re simulating timber harvest is the dominant mechanisms of gap creation - other natural mechanisms like tree-fall in windstorms are reduced because &#039;weaker&#039; larger trees that might be most susceptible are removed during harvest to improve &#039;stand quality&#039;. 

Hope this all makes sense - any more questions/observations let me know!

- James</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Bill,</p>
<p>Thanks for your question, it&#8217;s a good observation. Another observation that I think helps to explain this is that the &#8216;pulses&#8217; of mortality we see are in the smaller size classes. Consequently, these pulses are related to the pulses of regenerating trees that timber harvest produces.</p>
<p>Remember, in our model we assume that regeneration is only occurring in gaps produced by timber harvest. That means that new trees only show up in the stand after a harvest &#8211; and they only show up in the smallest size classes in these diagrams in the second timestep after harvest (in the first timestep they are still growing with DBH < 5cm). With new trees added to these size classes, competition for resources between trees is intense and inevitably many die. In the intervening timesteps mortality is lower because no new trees have been added in that timestep and competition is less fierce. </p>
<p>These &#8216;pulses&#8217; of mortality may seem strange but we have to remember two things:<br />
i) this is mortality is for the entire model timestep, which is one decade<br />
ii) the assumption that regeneration only occurs in harvest-created gaps is what is driving the behaviour.</p>
<p>As with all modelling, the appropriateness of the model assumptions must be questioned. In a less-heavily managed forest our &#8216;regeneration only after harvest&#8217; assumption might not be pertinent. But in the forests we&#8217;re simulating timber harvest is the dominant mechanisms of gap creation &#8211; other natural mechanisms like tree-fall in windstorms are reduced because &#8216;weaker&#8217; larger trees that might be most susceptible are removed during harvest to improve &#8216;stand quality&#8217;. </p>
<p>Hope this all makes sense &#8211; any more questions/observations let me know!</p>
<p>- James</p>
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		<title>Comment on Changing Forest Structure by Bill</title>
		<link>http://landscapemodelling.net/blog/2010/08/changing-forest-structure/comment-page-1/#comment-141</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Aug 2010 13:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the top example, it seems like the model is producing flip-flopping behavior, with harvest/mortality high in one decadal step, low in the next, high in the next and so on - why is that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the top example, it seems like the model is producing flip-flopping behavior, with harvest/mortality high in one decadal step, low in the next, high in the next and so on &#8211; why is that?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Bird Occupancy Modelling by Changing Forest Structure &#171; Direction not Destination</title>
		<link>http://landscapemodelling.net/blog/2010/03/bird-occupancy-modelling/comment-page-1/#comment-140</link>
		<dc:creator>Changing Forest Structure &#171; Direction not Destination</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2010 00:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the regeneration modelling component, refining the timber harvest rules, linking simulations to the bird occupancy modelling I started this spring, and writing it all up for [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Science Fictions by Leverhulme Early Career Fellowship &#171; Direction not Destination</title>
		<link>http://landscapemodelling.net/blog/2008/09/science-fictions/comment-page-1/#comment-117</link>
		<dc:creator>Leverhulme Early Career Fellowship &#171; Direction not Destination</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jul 2010 22:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] systems modelling but that pushed work in that area in a new direction. I thought back to the ideas about model narratives I have previously explored with David O&#8217;Sullivan and George Perry (but have not worked on since then) and Bill [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] systems modelling but that pushed work in that area in a new direction. I thought back to the ideas about model narratives I have previously explored with David O&#8217;Sullivan and George Perry (but have not worked on since then) and Bill [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Bayesian Multimodel Inference by Bayesian Modelling in Biogeography &#171; Direction not Destination</title>
		<link>http://landscapemodelling.net/blog/2009/06/bayesian-multimodel-inference/comment-page-1/#comment-70</link>
		<dc:creator>Bayesian Modelling in Biogeography &#171; Direction not Destination</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 02:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] iii) Bayesian approaches (including Bayesian Model Averaging, as I&#8217;ve discussed on this blog previously) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] iii) Bayesian approaches (including Bayesian Model Averaging, as I&#8217;ve discussed on this blog previously) [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Bird Occupancy Modelling by US-IALE 2010 Preparation &#171; Direction not Destination</title>
		<link>http://landscapemodelling.net/blog/2010/03/bird-occupancy-modelling/comment-page-1/#comment-63</link>
		<dc:creator>US-IALE 2010 Preparation &#171; Direction not Destination</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Mar 2010 00:47:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] In the context of our larger modelling project I&#8217;ll present work we&#8217;ve published, stuff we&#8217;re still working on, and the initial results from putting it all [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] In the context of our larger modelling project I&#8217;ll present work we&#8217;ve published, stuff we&#8217;re still working on, and the initial results from putting it all [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#039;Mind, the Gap&#039; paper in press by Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://landscapemodelling.net/blog/2010/02/mind-the-gap-paper-in-press/comment-page-1/#comment-41</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 20:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another group working on human interactions with geomorphic processes:http://communicate.aag.org/eseries/aag_org/program/AbstractDetail.cfm?AbstractID=29595</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another group working on human interactions with geomorphic processes:http://communicate.aag.org/eseries/aag_org/program/AbstractDetail.cfm?AbstractID=29595</p>
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		<title>Comment on Putting decison-making in context by James</title>
		<link>http://landscapemodelling.net/blog/2009/11/putting-decison-making-in-context/comment-page-1/#comment-40</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 20:35:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome, thanks Bill. Those paper have been placed near the top of my (seemingly infinitely long) reading list.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome, thanks Bill. Those paper have been placed near the top of my (seemingly infinitely long) reading list.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Putting decison-making in context by Bill McConnell</title>
		<link>http://landscapemodelling.net/blog/2009/11/putting-decison-making-in-context/comment-page-1/#comment-39</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill McConnell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:06:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The CIPEC land change modeling group has been applying the sunk cost concept in their models for a while, and Marco Janssen et al have applied the concept to the analysis of ancient societies:Janssen, Marco A., Marten Scheffer, and Timothy A. Kohler 2002. Sunk-Cost Effects Made Ancient Societies Vulnerable to Collapse. SFI Working Paper 02-02-007. Santa Fe, NM: Santa Fe Institute. Janssen, Marco A., and Marten Scheffer 2004. Overexploitation of Renewable Resources by Ancient Societies and the Role of Sunk-Cost Effects. Ecology and Society 9(1):6 [online]. URL: http://www.ecologyandsociety.org/vol9/iss1/art6.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The CIPEC land change modeling group has been applying the sunk cost concept in their models for a while, and Marco Janssen et al have applied the concept to the analysis of ancient societies:Janssen, Marco A., Marten Scheffer, and Timothy A. Kohler 2002. Sunk-Cost Effects Made Ancient Societies Vulnerable to Collapse. SFI Working Paper 02-02-007. Santa Fe, NM: Santa Fe Institute. Janssen, Marco A., and Marten Scheffer 2004. Overexploitation of Renewable Resources by Ancient Societies and the Role of Sunk-Cost Effects. Ecology and Society 9(1):6 [online]. URL: <a href="http://www.ecologyandsociety.org/vol9/iss1/art6" rel="nofollow">http://www.ecologyandsociety.org/vol9/iss1/art6</a>.</p>
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